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J.J. McCarthy's Real Odds of Becoming a Starter

November 13, 2026  · #vikings#nfl-analytics

Part of an ongoing analysis of the Vikings offense (project hub).

Data through week 9 of 2026.

Bottom line.

  1. First seasons as rough as McCarthy’s 2025 rarely turn into starting careers. Of 16 first-year starters that bad since 2015, 2 had even one average season by year 3.
  2. Held to a multi-season standard, his chance of becoming a good starter is about 9%. His most likely outcome is a backup or fringe starter (65%).
  3. His 77 Giants dropbacks roughly doubled those odds, from a low base. His strong finish to 2025 adds nothing to the forecast.
  4. A new coach by itself doesn’t turn young QBs around. Goff’s and Lawrence’s breakouts looked nothing alike, and McCarthy’s Giants situation matches neither.

McCarthy’s first 3 games as a Giant came in at +0.10 adjusted EPA per dropback. His 2025 season in Minnesota was −0.23. That’s 77 dropbacks, which is a small sample, and it was enough to restart the argument about whether the Vikings gave up too early.

That argument depends on a base rate that rarely comes up: how often a first season like his turns into a starting career. So I built it, plus a forecast that updates after every game he plays.

9%
Sustained good or elite starter
28%
Sustained average or better
65%
Backup or fringe starter

1. Where a first season like his usually leads

McCarthy’s 2025: −0.23 opponent-adjusted EPA per dropback on 290 dropbacks, the 12th percentile of 60 first-year starters since 2015. He was 22 and the 10th overall pick.

First-year starters who had an average-starter season by year 3

First seasons 2015–23 · average starter = 300+ dropbacks at or above that year's median QB

All first-year starters19 of 60 (95% CI 21–44%)
32%
Bottom quartile in year 12 of 16 (95% CI 4–36%)
13%
Bottom quartile, 1st-round picks2 of 7 (95% CI 8–64%)
29%
Within ±0.10 of McCarthy1 of 17 (95% CI 1–27%)
6%
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Data table
RowValue
All first-year starters (19 of 60 (95% CI 21–44%))32%
Bottom quartile in year 1 (2 of 16 (95% CI 4–36%))13%
Bottom quartile, 1st-round picks (2 of 7 (95% CI 8–64%))29%
Within ±0.10 of McCarthy (1 of 17 (95% CI 1–27%))6%

One in three first-year starters turns into at least an average starter. Start in the bottom quartile, where McCarthy was, and it’s about one in eight. Being a first-round pick helps (2 of 7), but look at who the two were: Jared Goff and Trevor Lawrence. Both were #1 overall picks, and both took off after a coaching change, Goff from Fisher to McVay and Lawrence from Meyer to Pederson. The first-rounders who didn’t make it: Josh Rosen, Dwayne Haskins, Bryce Young, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields.

That’s two cases. It’s tempting to read them as a recipe: bad first year, new coach, breakout. Section 6 tests that.

The base rate has a feedback loop in it. Half of the bottom-quartile QBs never got another 150-dropback season, so they never had the chance to post an average one. A bad first year costs a QB his starts, and losing the starts makes the bad first year look even more predictive. Some of that 13% reflects how teams behave.

2. Holding QBs to more than one good year

The base rate above counts a QB who has a single average season. That’s a low bar. Burrow, Mahomes and Allen are elite over several years, so for the forecast I required a QB to reach a tier in at least 2 of his years 2–4:

  • Elite: top 8 in adjusted EPA twice
  • Good: top 16 twice
  • Average: top 24 twice
  • Backup or fringe: played, but didn’t qualify twice
  • Out: never got 150 dropbacks in a season again

Draft slot goes in as the actual pick on a log scale, because the drop-off within the first round is steep. Those two choices cut McCarthy’s good-or-elite odds from about 30% to about 10%.

3. The odds by tier

Sustained tier in years 2–4

Cohort: 47 first-year starters, 2015–22 · McCarthy rows are the model's forecast

OutBackup / fringeAverageGoodElite
All first-year starters47 QBs
21%
38%
13%
13%
15%
Bottom quartile in year 113 QBs
46%
39%
McCarthy, 2025 only
21%
66%
8%
McCarthy + Giants games
65%
19%

McCarthy + Giants games, 80% intervals: good or elite 1%–27%, average or better 5%–57%, backup or fringe 40%–82%. Model: ordinal logistic on year-1 adjusted EPA, log draft pick, age, and his early year-2 play shrunk toward what year 1 predicted.

Data table
GroupOutBackup / fringeAverageGoodElite
All first-year starters (n=47)21%38%13%13%15%
Bottom quartile in year 1 (n=13)46%39%8%0%8%
McCarthy, 2025 only21%66%8%3%2%
McCarthy + Giants games7%65%19%6%3%

On 2025 alone, he looked like a bottom-quartile starter with a better draft slot: 5% good or elite, 13% average or better. Adding 77 Giants dropbacks at +0.10 moves him to 9% and 28%. The biggest shift is out of “Out”: 21% → 7%. Because of the feedback loop above, that matters: he’s likely to keep getting the starts most QBs in his spot lose.

Only 13 of the 47 QBs in the cohort reached a sustained good or elite tier: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson, Purdy, Watson, Tagovailoa and Goff at elite; Herbert, Burrow, Hurts, Wentz, Winston and Mariota at good.

4. Game by game

McCarthy's odds of becoming a sustained starter, game by game

Chance of reaching each tier in at least 2 of his years 2–4 · shaded = 80% interval · each point uses only games played to that date

Average or better (top 24) Good or elite (top 16)
0% 20% 40% 60% Vikings 2025 Giants 2026 MIN week 11 (2025) · 167 dropbacks at −0.37 so far Average or better: 8% (80%: 1%–22%) Good or elite: 2% (80%: 0%–8%) wk 11 MIN week 12 (2025) · 192 dropbacks at −0.42 so far Average or better: 5% (80%: 0%–18%) Good or elite: 1% (80%: 0%–6%) wk 12 MIN week 14 (2025) · 221 dropbacks at −0.33 so far Average or better: 11% (80%: 2%–25%) Good or elite: 3% (80%: 0%–10%) wk 14 MIN week 15 (2025) · 247 dropbacks at −0.26 so far Average or better: 18% (80%: 5%–32%) Good or elite: 6% (80%: 1%–14%) wk 15 MIN week 16 (2025) · 266 dropbacks at −0.26 so far Average or better: 18% (80%: 5%–32%) Good or elite: 6% (80%: 1%–14%) wk 16 MIN week 18 (2025) · 290 dropbacks at −0.23 so far Average or better: 22% (80%: 8%–36%) Good or elite: 8% (80%: 1%–16%) wk 18 NYG week 6 (2026) · 21 dropbacks at +0.32 so far Average or better: 29% (80%: 10%–47%) Good or elite: 11% (80%: 2%–23%) wk 6 NYG week 7 (2026) · 51 dropbacks at +0.21 so far Average or better: 33% (80%: 11%–53%) Good or elite: 13% (80%: 2%–27%) wk 7 NYG week 9 (2026) · 77 dropbacks at +0.10 so far Average or better: 31% (80%: 10%–49%) Good or elite: 11% (80%: 2%–24%) wk 9 Avg+ 31% Good+ 11%
Data table
AfterDropbacksAdj. EPAAvg or betterGood or elite
MIN 2025 wk 11167−0.378% (1%–22%)2% (0%–8%)
MIN 2025 wk 12192−0.425% (0%–18%)1% (0%–6%)
MIN 2025 wk 14221−0.3311% (2%–25%)3% (0%–10%)
MIN 2025 wk 15247−0.2618% (5%–32%)6% (1%–14%)
MIN 2025 wk 16266−0.2618% (5%–32%)6% (1%–14%)
MIN 2025 wk 18290−0.2322% (8%–36%)8% (1%–16%)
NYG 2026 wk 621+0.3229% (10%–47%)11% (2%–23%)
NYG 2026 wk 751+0.2133% (11%–53%)13% (2%–27%)
NYG 2026 wk 977+0.1031% (10%–49%)11% (2%–24%)

Most of the climb came in December 2025, before he ever played for the Giants. From his low point after week 12 to the end of the season, his good-or-elite odds went from 1% to 8%. The Giants games added a few more points, and his third Giants game gave some back.

This chart uses a slightly different model than section 3: it fits once and feeds in his year-2 play as it accumulates, which stays stable after a single game. It reads 11% where section 3 reads 9%. Treat them as the same answer.

5. The strong finish doesn’t change the forecast

McCarthy’s rookie season had two halves: −0.37 adjusted EPA per dropback before week 10, −0.03 after. That looked like a QB figuring it out. Across the cohort, a jump like that from the first half to the second doesn’t predict year 2 at all. Adding it to the model made the forecasts worse.

His closest matches on rookie level, second-half jump, age and draft slot:

QBPickYear 1Adj. EPA2nd-half jumpSustained tier, years 2–4
D. Haskins152019−0.24+0.30Backup / fringe
J. Fields112021−0.15+0.11Backup / fringe
Z. Wilson22021−0.22+0.09Backup / fringe
D. Mills672021−0.16+0.14Backup / fringe
D. Kizer522017−0.19+0.08Out
J. Allen72018−0.09+0.17Elite
L. Jackson322018−0.09+0.12Elite
D. Jones62019−0.10+0.07Average

Two of eight became elite: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Five never stuck. Haskins is the closest match overall.

The late-season version of McCarthy did look different in one place. From shotgun, his throws past the first read were close to a league-average QB’s. From under center, in O’Connell’s play-action game, they weren’t.

McCarthy, throws past the first read, weeks 10–18 of 2025

Opponent- and situation-adjusted EPA per dropback · 95% interval (games resampled)

Shotgun48 throws · league +0.01
Under center15 throws · league +0.06
−1.20−0.90−0.60−0.300.00+0.30+0.60

Both intervals are wide and cross zero. His overall improvement over the season was ordinary for a rookie, so this looks like where he was comfortable. It doesn't show the formation sped up his development.

Data table
RowEstimate95% CI
Shotgun −0.03−0.27 to +0.40
Under center −0.45−1.07 to +0.08

6. Is there a “Goff and Lawrence play”?

The story people tell about Goff and Lawrence is a bad first year, a new coach, a friendlier offense, then a breakout. The Giants move looks like the same story for McCarthy. I tested both halves.

A new coach alone doesn’t make young QBs better. Among 37 first-year starters who kept playing in year 2, those with a new head coach improved by −0.02 EPA per dropback relative to those without one, once you account for how bad their first year was (95% CI −0.11 to +0.07). In the bottom half of year 1, 2 of 15 reached an average season with a new coach and 2 of 15 without. A new coach did change who kept the job: 53% of those QBs kept starting with a new coach, 27% without.

Goff and Lawrence got different things.

Time to throw, year 1 → year 2

NGS average seconds from snap to throw · lower = quicker offense

Year 1 Year 2
GoffJeff Fisher → Sean McVay
LawrenceUrban Meyer → Doug Pederson
McCarthyKevin O'Connell → John Harbaugh
2.40s2.50s2.60s2.70s2.80s2.90s3.00s3.10s
Data table
RowYear 1Year 2
Goff 2.54s2.93s
Lawrence 2.87s2.59s
McCarthy 3.02s2.88s

Receiver quality, year 1 → year 2

League percentile of his receivers, judged on throws from other QBs · higher = better cast

Year 1 Year 2
GoffLA → LA
LawrenceJAX → JAX
McCarthyMIN → NYG
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McCarthy's 2026 numbers rest on 77 dropbacks.

Data table
RowYear 1Year 2
Goff 548
Lawrence 3612
McCarthy 9348

Goff’s offense got slower under McVay, and his receivers went from the 5th percentile to the 48th. Lawrence’s offense got much quicker under Pederson, with receivers a little worse than the year before. What they had in common was draft slot and patience: both were #1 picks, and both got a full second season (510 and 639 dropbacks).

McCarthy got a quicker offense and the starts. He also lost one of the league’s best supporting casts: his receivers went from the 93rd percentile with Jefferson and Addison to the 48th with the Giants. That’s the biggest drop of any QB in the cohort who changed coaches.

So what

  • Moving on was defensible by the base rates. One in eight bottom-quartile starters had even one average season by year 3. For a team trying to win now, that’s a reasonable call. It was still a bet. Had the number been 40%, it would have been premature.
  • The Giants gave McCarthy the one thing Goff and Lawrence shared: the starts. A new coach on its own hasn’t helped QBs like him, and he’s throwing to a much weaker group than he had in Minnesota. If he plays well with this cast, that’s a stronger signal than the same numbers would have been with Jefferson.
  • What to watch: his odds after each Giants start. The chart above updates after every game, and each start puts more weight on his Giants play and less on his rookie year.

Takeaway: a rough first season like McCarthy’s is a strong negative signal. By the base rates, a team that moves on from one usually isn’t giving up a future starter. The two exceptions since 2015 were #1 overall picks whose teams gave them a full second season.

What this doesn’t tell us

  • 47 QBs. The intervals are wide: backup or fringe runs from 40% to 82%.
  • The base rates partly measure opportunity (section 1). Some of the QBs who lost their starts might have improved with them.
  • A three-season window clips late bloomers. Sam Darnold became a top QB in year 7.
  • Tiers are adjusted EPA rank only. No contracts, no reputation, and no front-office reasoning. Why Minnesota decided what it did isn’t in the data.

Method: every NFL dropback 2015–26, with opponent effects removed. First-year starter = first season with 150+ dropbacks, rookie year 2015 or later. Full analysis: Q24, Q22, Q26. Time to throw: Next Gen Stats. Data: nflverse and FTN charting (CC-BY-SA 4.0).


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